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hi everybody I'm bill burns yeah nancy

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burns here I work in future theater and

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now get rid your radio go through pain

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welcome everybody to paying radio

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tonight is Sunday November second 2014

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welcome to the show tonight we got a

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good one in store we have author and

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paranormal researcher Adrian Leon

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tonight from my local local Minnesota so

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the state next door and I've had

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Adrienne on before and I know ken has

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had Adrienne on on his previous show too

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so we're gonna have a lot of fun and

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adrian has probably done some pretty

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cool stuff since Halloween so we'll

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definitely talk about that so first off

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host and i do of course have my co-host

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and counterpart mr. Ken Storch welcome

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to the show can hey thanks for having me

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and welcome ladies and gentlemen to

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paying radio glad to have you perfect

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can do you have some shout outs tonight

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for anybody I do I know that Mindy Larry

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and chance are listening tonight so I

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want to say howdy to them and that's

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their in Choteau Oklahoma so welcome

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guys very cool and I got a lot of shout

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outs from facebook today so here we go

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here goes my list okay we got William

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from Oklahoma City listening in and we

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have Bob from Raleigh North Carolina

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Dean who is an avid listener he's always

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on her Facebook page from south east

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england my buddy Josh hometown josh from

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hawthorne Wisconsin another josh calling

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in and listening from timberville

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virginia kevin from north mankato

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minnesota another local person listening

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also are our friend bill in chat bill as

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a as a great guy he is listening in from

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bomb Phil New York and

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and last not least I would say she has

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been one of the longest a dedicated

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listeners on the network I see in chat

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at the moment Lorraine calling in from

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Port Cartier or not calling in but

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listening in from Port Cartier cool

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Becks so just from everywhere around the

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world and we appreciate the support and

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we appreciate the donations and it this

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like I said if it wasn't for the fans

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and all the listeners we definitely

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would not be here can oh definitely I

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kinda hate to think that I was just

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talking to you and I yeah right just two

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of us on the air just yeah just gabbing

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away you know I'm like yeah no it's uh

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it's our listeners and fans that make it

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go definitely definitely now can you

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said there's been some kind of a kind of

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a little a lot of sightings uh in an

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area over in Colorado yeah there's

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apparently been quite a bit of activity

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in the San Luis Valley this past

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actually 10 days I guess an object down

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in the if you're familiar with your

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geography and Colorado and the San Luis

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near the saguache County which is in the

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San Luis Valley I guess an object has

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been seen several nights described as a

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giant diamond flying across the skies

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and apparently quite a few orbs this is

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making the local news stations in the

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Denver Metro area yeah and I did I did

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post that and I are in the RN facebook

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page for a new so if you want to see the

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latest news I'm always posting anything

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that I can find that's relevant to the

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unknown UFO feel Bigfoot paranormal life

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it's mostly you a false because that

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Connie is my love but I try to put a

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arrangement of everything up there and I

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am of course applying the facebook page

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of course with Roger Phillips comics

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with his his grey is grey alien that

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they're they're neat little guys and if

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he's got some good stuff yeah and he

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launched his book today and actually

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launches book yesterday I ordered two

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one for myself and one for a present for

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somebody that I would love the book so i

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can say who it's for on the air cuz

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they're probably listening and probably

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bust probably bust

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myself now can yep you gave it up

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already but that's okay yeah you know

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yeah and something else in the news can

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too he had the Virgin Galactic crash I

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mean that was kind of unexpected yeah

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you know and and and their mainstream

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media you know you had to rock it blow

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up on the launching pad alginia now

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you've had the Galactic crash in which

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there was one of the pilots was killed

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a big push that you know it's really

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setting back you know space travel in

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the private industry which I beg to

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differ I you know hey anytime you are

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flying an airplane driving a car or

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sailing on a ship there's always the

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possibility of an accident and so yeah

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it tragic in the sense that you know

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people have lost their lives and and and

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there is you know a causation for why

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the rocket blew up and why the Galactic

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ship went down but still I think that

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the private industry is the one that's

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going to further space exploration

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because that's where it's at I think

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then the driving forces you know there

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is opportunity not only financial but

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just the idea of being boldly go where

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nobody's gone okay right right right now

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yeah and so you know that it's in our

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blood due to explore and that's what we

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do and I think that we're going to see

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some great leaps and bounds in the

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coming future in regards to that I I

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just a little thorn in the side hey

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you're going to have those stumbling

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blocks no matter what and and to think

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that you could go through the entire

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exploration of just our solar system

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without some kind of tragedy or accident

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is just facetious on anybody's part it's

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going to happen it's just part of the

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expense yep definitely right so now i

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will get to adrian lee i'll read his bio

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for all her folks adrian lee was born

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and raised in London England he studied

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history and history methodologies for

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his master's degree and lectured for 14

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years becoming the head

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several art and history departments and

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a local advisor for education adrian is

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the founder of the International

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Paranormal Society and a member of the

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Luton Paranormal Society in England he

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has investigated ghosts and haunted

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buildings throughout Britain and America

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particularly particularly in the Midwest

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area Adrian states I have first became

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interested in paranormal after

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experiencing several events in my

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childhood home progressively throughout

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my adult life idea of interfacing with

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the dead became intriguing to me as a

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historical perspective boy just got some

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reading going on Adrian's our books are

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mysterious Minnesota digging up the

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ghostly past at 1300 sites great book I

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did pick that up ba last time I had him

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on the air so it was a great book so if

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you look for that you can find it at

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Barnes & Noble and world books in Amazon

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if you want to look but let's bring in

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Adrian here for the show see if I got

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everything set up correctly and we'll

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bring him in live looking forward to

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talking to Adrian I'm sure they had a

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busy weekend with Halloween last weekend

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while Adrian welcome to paying radio

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welcome back after a few years fabulous

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yes it's been far too long hasn't it oh

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it has but i'm sure you've talked to Ken

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in the meantime they'll Ken's with me

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now yes I heard that yes we've had one

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or two very interesting conversations

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this is true and there's never enough

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minute to say check your eyes feeling

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like they could be with another our

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almonds we tend to have some fabulous

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conversation right right so I read the

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listeners your bio do you want it do you

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want to tell him a little bit deeper on

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how you first had it had your first

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experience as a child well I think all

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of us have had some sort of experience

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in our youth perhaps where we've had a

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an interaction with a ghost that I I

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discovered that the strange old lady

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wandering around my bedroom when I was a

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kid breakfast turned out to be my

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great-grandmother it's a very

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interesting story actually I was at the

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age where I needed a proper bed rather

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than I think what you'd call in this

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country some sort of crib perhaps or a

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cot we'd say in Britain mm-hmm so I was

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getting to the age where I needed a bed

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and this was the end of 1972 and

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unfortunately my

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great-grandmother died and I did meet

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her but I don't recall at all that

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incident I was far too young and I've

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only been one or two years old but

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did actually meet though I have no

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recollection of that and I spent all of

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my youth wondering who this strange old

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lady was in my bedroom wandering around

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and I knew that my bed had come from my

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great as my parents had mentioned that's

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what they got when she died in terms of

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you know when you go through the house

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so call from someone said later in needs

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a bed you know we'll give him an edge or

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because she'd only bought it recently

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mm-hmm so subsequently one day when I

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was a child I said to my parents did her

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by any chance my great-grandmother

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actually died in that bed was that her

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deathbed and very matter-of-fact and

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both my parents of scientists but very

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matter-of-fact they said yes she died in

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that bed and then I thought our that

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must be the old lady he was wandering

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around my room but very interestingly I

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then obviously I must have had a look on

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my face at that age and I had the blood

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drain out again I probably looked very

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ashen my bed followed that up by saying

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well your great grandmother loved you

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she'd never do anything to harm you or

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cause you anymore and that seemed to

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help in many respects and I think that's

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still true today when people say to me

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have you ever been scared as have you

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ever you know being frightened by

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anything the people that I engage with

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and my team engages with our people grab

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him it was great when they're and

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ultimately they don't want to hurt you

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they don't would you any concern so that

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kind of stuck with me in many ways it

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resonated you know with what i do now

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even though that was in the early 70s

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off but there were some incidents very

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interestingly with my parents moved

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house they moved house in 1983 and i was

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just beginning to be a teenager then and

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we moved into this house and the lady

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that was in the house her husband died

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and she was very elderly and she moved

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to stay with her sister and my sister's

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name is joanne and my sister oh i didn't

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get on very well with an i was a child

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because obviously brothers and sisters

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tend to fight a lot and i'm in a reason

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she's a Scorpio so if anyone who knows

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astrological signs will know that's not

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a great combination but ultimately I

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woke up one night and my sister was

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sleeping on my bedroom floor and I said

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what are you doing on my bedroom floor

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and she said I can hear voices in my

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room there's people trying to talk to me

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and I said I I find that hard to believe

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but you know I was I I believed

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ultimately and then a following night

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this is a week of hidden into this house

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and the following night she came into my

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room again and said did you call my name

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out I said no I've not said a word and

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she apparently went into my parents room

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because she heard a man's voice shout

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out Joe and it woke her up because her

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name was Joe n so we never thought no

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more of this and just thought it was an

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overactive teenage girls imagination and

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then we got some mail come through so

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you know when you move house you get

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mail directed to you from the person

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that previously lived there and what

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discovered by reading the old ladies now

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that came through after we kind of

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forwarded it on to her was her name was

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Josephine but everyone used to call her

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Joe and we found out from the neighbors

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that her husband died in my sister's

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room and when he was shouting Joe out he

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wasn't actually wanting to talk to my

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sister he was actually wanting to talk

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to his wife he was called Josephine and

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that house was very haunted they'd be

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shadow figures wandering around and

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they'd be doors slamming and there was

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one occasion when I came home late after

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being out like most teenage boys and the

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light in my bedroom came one as i was

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walking up the path so i just imagined

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that someone was in the house and when i

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went into the house oh my there was no

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one in there and the lights had gone on

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and off on their own so the husband was

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actually called Herbert so whenever

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anything happened in the house oh my

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parents still live there so whenever

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they heard voices or footsteps or door

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slamming they're just refer to it as

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Herbert and say her but stop doing that

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I guess this is the approach to ghost

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isn't it when people say but it go to my

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house what can I do about it ultimately

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ninety percent of the time you can just

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reason with them and say look we don't

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mind you being here you used to live

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here you perhaps built the house and

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give as much right to be here as we have

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but can you stop playing with the kids

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and can you stop making noises after ten

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o'clock so I've got work in the morning

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and nine times out of ten in my

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experience they actually adhere to that

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so that's the approach we take but I

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guess those would be the first

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experiences I had in my youth and my

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childhood hey Adrian I got a question

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for you the fact that Josephine's

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husband was calling out her name Joel

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suggests that he he wasn't aware that

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your sister was in the room that he

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wasn't aware that that his wife wasn't

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there that isn't sibility yeah he died

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she moved out of that house very shortly

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after he died in actual facts whether

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there was some sort of transitional

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period where he was kind of in flux and

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hadn't quite made it to the other

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because people tell me and I'm sure

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you've got experience of this yourself

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you know people tell me that they tend

365
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to get paranormal experiences and

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hauntings a week or so or two weeks

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after the persons died and they tend to

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get a sort of visitation if you like and

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then after that they get nothing so it

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almost seems to me that they want to say

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a last goodbye or they want to reassure

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them or there's some sort of situation

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where they're in stasis for a couple of

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weeks either because they don't know

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where they're going or they're confused

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or they want to stay around to see what

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their funeral was like and what auntie

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Jean was wearing and who turned up and

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what the catering would do do you think

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that those energies are aware that there

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are no longer in our physical world that

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they've that they've crossed over do you

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think they're aware of that or are they

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simply you know not cognizant or aware

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that they're in a different in a

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different plane I think based on our

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culture you must have an understanding

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of what we discuss and what's kind of

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convention for when we die so even

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though there isn't really any scientific

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proof set up the culture of our society

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suggests that you know when you die

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there is perhaps a period of time and

394
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there's the cliché of going to the white

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light so we do have an understanding

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perhaps of a cliched set of conventions

397
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of what it would be like I think

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psychologists may suggest

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that you might not necessarily want to

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embrace the idea you know so it's one

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thing though and you've died it's

402
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another thing actually admitting to it

403
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because at that point you've then

404
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actually got to deal with it haven't you

405
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we were in a society where if you was in

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an elevator and there's four people and

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one of them breaks wind or breaks gasps

408
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everyone ignores it don't they no one

409
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acknowledges the fact because if you

410
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acknowledge the fact and gotta deal with

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it and it saves you a psychological

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point of view I don't know I I know of a

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several individuals that would step

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forward and say hey that was me a good

415
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one oh yeah but you know it to answer

416
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your question I guess I I think someone

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who doesn't know that they crossed over

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would have to have lived you know in

419
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isolation of our culture because you

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would have an understanding i think

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having said that there's been very few

422
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occasions i can think of but there's

423
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been one or two where someone's died

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very suddenly like a piano has just

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fallen on their head from a great height

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and i think there may be a period of

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preps where am i and what just happened

428
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but i think you know over a period of

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time you'd have an understanding of

430
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where you were just because of what we

431
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discuss and what sign in so make sense

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yeah and that brings me to another

433
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question it does the type of death that

434
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the individual experience like you just

435
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mentioned a sudden unexpected piano

436
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falls on your head and that person you

437
00:18:20,790 --> 00:18:19,570
know was in perfect health hit you know

438
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it was whistling on their way to work

439
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and in the next instant they are

440
00:18:28,710 --> 00:18:25,150
deceased or they're no longer on this

441
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side does that or somebody that lays in

442
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in bed and suffers for six months to a

443
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year and finally passes away does it the

444
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matter of death make a difference do you

445
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think I think you might be surprised to

446
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find the answer to this that most of the

447
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people i have contact with either

448
00:18:47,070 --> 00:18:45,010
through my psychic skills or other

449
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psychics on the team or ultimately

450
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through the signs of our equipment most

451
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of the people i engage with haven't died

452
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a very quick sudden miserable death

453
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they've died in very natural

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circumstances if you can call dying

455
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natural circumstances george orwell the

456
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famous british writer of course of 1980

457
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for an animal farm road a fabulous

458
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little article he was a writer for The

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Daily Herald and the observer newspapers

460
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in Britain in the 1930s and he had

461
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experiences of fighting in the Spanish

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Civil War in 1933 and there's actually a

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book and I would advise people to go and

464
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read this because I'm a great fan of

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george orwell his writings very simple

466
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it's very descriptive without using long

467
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words because as a socialist writer he

468
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wanted everyone to understand what he

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was saying but not be elitist but he

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wrote a fabulous piece for for The

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Observer newspaper where he discussed

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what it was like to actually see

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somebody dying and it's actually in a

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collection of short stories and he

475
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describes the fact that when he was

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injured during the Spanish Civil War he

477
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was in a hospital bed like a dressing

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station I guess and he leant across and

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look to the person next to him and the

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person next to him was was worse injured

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and he was and he actually died in front

482
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of him he could actually see the guy

483
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dying he writes his fabulous article

484
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about the fact that there's no such

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thing there's a quiet death people would

486
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like to think that you just slip away

487
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and there's no pain but he he he

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describes very Orwellian how this guy

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went blue you know Azure and his tongue

490
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came out and his eyes you know bulged as

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he was kind of at his death rattle if

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you like and if anyone wants to read a

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first-hand primary description of what

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it's like to see someone die in front of

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you and your SAT nearing hospital

496
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actually watching them in the in the bed

497
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next to you that's very descriptive and

498
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the great piece of writing but most of

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the people i chat with in spirit have

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actually died under very normal

501
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circumstances and the ones that died

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suddenly and tragically there's more

503
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chance i think in my experience of

504
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actually finding a residual haunting at

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that point if you see someone you know

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suddenly over their head chopped off

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with an ax for example or you know be

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shot suddenly that tends to leave a

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residual imprint like a very traumatic

510
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incident that soaks into the waltz or

511
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the fabric of the building and is

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replayed over a period of time and i

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believe this to be true we've all

514
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experienced when we go around someone's

515
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house for dinner imagine your english

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and you're going for a dinner party and

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it's all very posh and you ring the

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doorbell and

519
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the lady of the house opens the door and

520
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invites you in and the husband's there

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and everyone's very cordial and very

522
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polite very friendly but you sense a

523
00:21:29,399 --> 00:21:26,860
negative energy and you're not quite

524
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sure why well the reason is of course a

525
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minute before you rang the doorbell

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she's saying to him you can't wear that

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shirt you've not ironed it when was the

528
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last time you combed your hair they'll

529
00:21:39,269 --> 00:21:37,120
be round in a minute you know and then

530
00:21:41,070 --> 00:21:39,279
the doorbell rings and you know everyone

531
00:21:43,470 --> 00:21:41,080
smiles and everyone's very polite but

532
00:21:45,269 --> 00:21:43,480
you get that residual energy and I would

533
00:21:47,580 --> 00:21:45,279
advise anyone who has an argument in

534
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their house because let's face facts

535
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every relationship has moments of

536
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tension and friction you know I would

537
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advise people listening to the show that

538
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if you have those moments don't do it in

539
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the bedroom if you're going to throw

540
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cups at one another and shout of one

541
00:22:02,010 --> 00:21:59,860
another at least go down to the kitchen

542
00:22:04,019 --> 00:22:02,020
because in the bedroom it's somewhere

543
00:22:06,120 --> 00:22:04,029
where you want to relax and somewhere

544
00:22:07,919 --> 00:22:06,130
where you want to sleep and and the

545
00:22:11,639 --> 00:22:07,929
negativity soaks into the water

546
00:22:13,409 --> 00:22:11,649
sanctuary oh absolutely so at answer the

547
00:22:15,960 --> 00:22:13,419
question you know the negativity that

548
00:22:17,760 --> 00:22:15,970
gets absorbed tends to come from tragic

549
00:22:21,149 --> 00:22:17,770
incidents and perhaps tends to be more

550
00:22:23,820 --> 00:22:21,159
residual in my when I interact with

551
00:22:26,610 --> 00:22:23,830
spirits melted under natural

552
00:22:28,139 --> 00:22:26,620
circumstances more often than not and I

553
00:22:31,039 --> 00:22:28,149
think there's something to that Adrianna

554
00:22:34,590 --> 00:22:31,049
you know I've been on a number of

555
00:22:38,370 --> 00:22:34,600
instances where I had people literally

556
00:22:41,669 --> 00:22:38,380
died in my arms as a result of a car

557
00:22:43,889 --> 00:22:41,679
accident or a gunshot wound and you can

558
00:22:47,190 --> 00:22:43,899
feel a diamond there's one particular

559
00:22:49,529 --> 00:22:47,200
case in which a 19 year old lady was

560
00:22:52,649 --> 00:22:49,539
killed tragically in a car accident and

561
00:22:55,590 --> 00:22:52,659
she was alive when I got on scene and

562
00:22:56,789 --> 00:22:55,600
and she was pinned in the car and so I

563
00:22:58,950 --> 00:22:56,799
couldn't move her and I was waiting for

564
00:23:00,000 --> 00:22:58,960
rescue and you know advised him that

565
00:23:03,029 --> 00:23:00,010
they were going to need certain

566
00:23:04,590 --> 00:23:03,039
equipment to extricate this this young

567
00:23:07,620 --> 00:23:04,600
lady from behind the wheel but in the

568
00:23:11,130 --> 00:23:07,630
interim she passed away and I literally

569
00:23:14,100 --> 00:23:11,140
felt the energy leave her body and in it

570
00:23:16,139 --> 00:23:14,110
and it it it was like it it was all

571
00:23:19,350 --> 00:23:16,149
around inside the car if you get what I

572
00:23:21,600 --> 00:23:19,360
mean but it wasn't in her weird it's

573
00:23:23,279 --> 00:23:21,610
very interesting so the Native American

574
00:23:25,919 --> 00:23:23,289
culture believes that if they were to

575
00:23:28,260 --> 00:23:25,929
kill somebody in battle the reason they

576
00:23:30,180 --> 00:23:28,270
do their dances after after a back like

577
00:23:31,280 --> 00:23:30,190
a war dance I think they do a dance and

578
00:23:33,380 --> 00:23:31,290
I'm happy to be corrected

579
00:23:36,110 --> 00:23:33,390
this called the dance of the doll and

580
00:23:38,060 --> 00:23:36,120
the idea is that as you're dancing every

581
00:23:39,470 --> 00:23:38,070
time you put your feet on the floor and

582
00:23:42,410 --> 00:23:39,480
that's why when they dance they make

583
00:23:43,940 --> 00:23:42,420
very distinctive motions to press their

584
00:23:46,070 --> 00:23:43,950
feet into the ground as they're as

585
00:23:48,200 --> 00:23:46,080
they're hopping and dancing around the

586
00:23:50,240 --> 00:23:48,210
idea is to remove the spirits that

587
00:23:51,560 --> 00:23:50,250
you've collected of the people that

588
00:23:53,660 --> 00:23:51,570
you've killed because you don't want

589
00:23:55,910 --> 00:23:53,670
them to follow you so even the Native

590
00:23:58,460 --> 00:23:55,920
American culture had an origin yeah i

591
00:24:00,440 --> 00:23:58,470
have negative attea and how spirits can

592
00:24:02,420 --> 00:24:00,450
absorb themselves into your life and

593
00:24:04,760 --> 00:24:02,430
when you think of hotels and places that

594
00:24:06,920 --> 00:24:04,770
general stayed especially during the

595
00:24:09,050 --> 00:24:06,930
civil war in the Sioux uprising there's

596
00:24:10,520 --> 00:24:09,060
a Western European culture you could go

597
00:24:13,700 --> 00:24:10,530
onto the battlefield imagine that

598
00:24:15,980 --> 00:24:13,710
iceberg you know and some of the spirits

599
00:24:18,590 --> 00:24:15,990
that you could be attached with but then

600
00:24:20,840 --> 00:24:18,600
where you go next is a place where that

601
00:24:22,910 --> 00:24:20,850
can be absorbed that the Palmer House in

602
00:24:25,250 --> 00:24:22,920
Sauk Centre in Minnesota springs to mind

603
00:24:27,740 --> 00:24:25,260
because intrinsically there's no reason

604
00:24:30,320 --> 00:24:27,750
that hotel should be haunted over any

605
00:24:32,570 --> 00:24:30,330
other hotel yeah I think it last week he

606
00:24:34,790 --> 00:24:32,580
got voted the most haunted building in

607
00:24:39,800 --> 00:24:34,800
the whole of Minnesota yet it's just a

608
00:24:41,570 --> 00:24:39,810
very lavish 1901 hotel with the stained

609
00:24:43,910 --> 00:24:41,580
glass windows it was only the second

610
00:24:45,410 --> 00:24:43,920
building in the whole of Minnesota to

611
00:24:47,030 --> 00:24:45,420
get electricity in fact they had to

612
00:24:48,830 --> 00:24:47,040
replace the switches after six months

613
00:24:51,980 --> 00:24:48,840
cuz everyone used to come in and turn

614
00:24:53,780 --> 00:24:51,990
the life of the switches but I then

615
00:24:55,100 --> 00:24:53,790
discovered through historical research

616
00:24:57,770 --> 00:24:55,110
which is obviously something that's very

617
00:24:59,480 --> 00:24:57,780
prominent in my work on my writing that

618
00:25:01,280 --> 00:24:59,490
several generals had stayed there and

619
00:25:04,040 --> 00:25:01,290
people like Cole Younger of the Jesse

620
00:25:05,270 --> 00:25:04,050
James Gang stayed there as well and

621
00:25:06,950 --> 00:25:05,280
you're thinking all the people they've

622
00:25:09,110 --> 00:25:06,960
killed all the people they've attacked

623
00:25:11,360 --> 00:25:09,120
what have they got traveling with them

624
00:25:12,710 --> 00:25:11,370
that could then absorb itself into

625
00:25:15,470 --> 00:25:12,720
buildings they're spending a lot of time

626
00:25:18,650 --> 00:25:15,480
in when when the Native American culture

627
00:25:20,210 --> 00:25:18,660
had a very much aware of that that kind

628
00:25:21,740 --> 00:25:20,220
of attachments that you could gain

629
00:25:24,290 --> 00:25:21,750
through through death on the battlefield

630
00:25:26,180 --> 00:25:24,300
for example and I wonder if you had

631
00:25:28,310 --> 00:25:26,190
anything follow you home at so if you're

632
00:25:30,170 --> 00:25:28,320
around you know in your career as a

633
00:25:32,510 --> 00:25:30,180
police officer for example if you had

634
00:25:34,370 --> 00:25:32,520
any situations where you think you know

635
00:25:35,780 --> 00:25:34,380
the person died in front of you but then

636
00:25:38,360 --> 00:25:35,790
perhaps followed you home or maybe

637
00:25:39,680 --> 00:25:38,370
absorbed itself into your life in the

638
00:25:41,990 --> 00:25:39,690
same way that you said you thought the

639
00:25:45,650 --> 00:25:42,000
car felt very negative after they

640
00:25:48,580 --> 00:25:45,660
experienced yeah you know I don't

641
00:25:52,220 --> 00:25:48,590
I know that there's a number of

642
00:25:56,600 --> 00:25:52,230
colleagues George and Doug are listening

643
00:26:00,980 --> 00:25:56,610
and I I don't ever recall experiencing

644
00:26:04,820 --> 00:26:00,990
that type of a feeling but I do remember

645
00:26:06,680 --> 00:26:04,830
going home and and you know once again

646
00:26:08,660 --> 00:26:06,690
it's a very traumatic experience to see

647
00:26:10,490 --> 00:26:08,670
somebody shot and die in front of your

648
00:26:13,490 --> 00:26:10,500
and you know you're holding on to them

649
00:26:17,510 --> 00:26:13,500
as their life force leaves their body

650
00:26:21,110 --> 00:26:17,520
and it leaves you with a very strange

651
00:26:22,760 --> 00:26:21,120
and I don't know if that's a result of

652
00:26:25,550 --> 00:26:22,770
the energy that has left or is that

653
00:26:27,590 --> 00:26:25,560
psychosomatic that you know that's my my

654
00:26:30,320 --> 00:26:27,600
way of coping with something like that

655
00:26:32,780 --> 00:26:30,330
so it's in introducing that type of

656
00:26:35,780 --> 00:26:32,790
energy or emotion I don't know which but

657
00:26:38,690 --> 00:26:35,790
on several occasions I had a very you

658
00:26:40,280 --> 00:26:38,700
know strange feeling and it stayed with

659
00:26:45,710 --> 00:26:40,290
you for a long now I don't say a long

660
00:26:47,120 --> 00:26:45,720
time but for a number of days and uh and

661
00:26:48,920 --> 00:26:47,130
it's something that you never forget I

662
00:26:50,570 --> 00:26:48,930
had a guy commits suicide right in front

663
00:26:53,450 --> 00:26:50,580
of me shot himself in the head with a

664
00:26:55,640 --> 00:26:53,460
shotgun you and I mean one minute I'm

665
00:26:58,820 --> 00:26:55,650
talking to him the next minute he his

666
00:27:02,030 --> 00:26:58,830
upper Tolls torso basically just

667
00:27:05,450 --> 00:27:02,040
disappeared and i still feel and this is

668
00:27:07,880 --> 00:27:05,460
really strange Adrian I remember

669
00:27:11,930 --> 00:27:07,890
immediately afterwards there was a

670
00:27:15,500 --> 00:27:11,940
strange smell and taste it was almost

671
00:27:19,640 --> 00:27:15,510
kind of acid and I initially thought

672
00:27:22,730 --> 00:27:19,650
maybe that was from the shotgun but it

673
00:27:24,890 --> 00:27:22,740
wasn't I mean I fired enough weapons and

674
00:27:26,930 --> 00:27:24,900
continued to shoot guns I'm a big avid

675
00:27:29,840 --> 00:27:26,940
of shooting guns and it wasn't the smell

676
00:27:32,210 --> 00:27:29,850
of gunpowder or nitrates it was a

677
00:27:34,790 --> 00:27:32,220
different kind of acid taste and was

678
00:27:37,550 --> 00:27:34,800
really strange that every once in a

679
00:27:39,140 --> 00:27:37,560
while out of the blue I won't even be

680
00:27:41,660 --> 00:27:39,150
thinking about that case even though

681
00:27:43,010 --> 00:27:41,670
it's very vivid in my memory something

682
00:27:45,740 --> 00:27:43,020
like that would never go away it's

683
00:27:48,590 --> 00:27:45,750
imprinted in the brain cells I get that

684
00:27:49,760 --> 00:27:48,600
taste that's very interesting be coming

685
00:27:50,870 --> 00:27:49,770
right out of the blue I won't even be

686
00:27:52,220 --> 00:27:50,880
thinking about and all of a sudden and

687
00:27:54,500 --> 00:27:52,230
then it will take me right back to that

688
00:27:56,540 --> 00:27:54,510
moment ken ken and Adrian lets us stop

689
00:27:58,160 --> 00:27:56,550
there and take take that after the break

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paranormal researcher adrian lee we left

762
00:32:36,239 --> 00:32:32,019
off with ken going through a traumatic

763
00:32:37,799 --> 00:32:36,249
traumatic incident there and it had to

764
00:32:41,340 --> 00:32:37,809
do his smells cancel go ahead and take

765
00:32:43,830 --> 00:32:41,350
over there and well Mike I was asking

766
00:32:46,139 --> 00:32:43,840
Adrian you know that in this particular

767
00:32:49,710 --> 00:32:46,149
incident immediately after it happened

768
00:32:51,840 --> 00:32:49,720
it was this kind of an acid taste and

769
00:32:54,720 --> 00:32:51,850
smell in the air and you know initially

770
00:32:56,999 --> 00:32:54,730
I told people and they said well that

771
00:32:58,919 --> 00:32:57,009
was the smell of the Gunpowder going off

772
00:33:03,119 --> 00:32:58,929
in the weapon when when the gentleman

773
00:33:05,220 --> 00:33:03,129
committed suicide and that's not it I

774
00:33:08,009 --> 00:33:05,230
mean I fired a number of weapons and

775
00:33:10,379 --> 00:33:08,019
cannot my big avid gun collector I shoot

776
00:33:15,269 --> 00:33:10,389
guns all the time and it's not the same

777
00:33:17,489 --> 00:33:15,279
and and I was asking Adrian because out

778
00:33:19,889 --> 00:33:17,499
of the blue I mean I'm talking about an

779
00:33:23,639 --> 00:33:19,899
incident that happened probably 25 years

780
00:33:25,440 --> 00:33:23,649
ago and I'll be fishing or reading a

781
00:33:28,320 --> 00:33:25,450
book or something and out of the blue

782
00:33:31,409 --> 00:33:28,330
I'll get this smell and taste and it

783
00:33:34,649 --> 00:33:31,419
instantly goes back to that seeing that

784
00:33:36,930 --> 00:33:34,659
you know that happened and so that was

785
00:33:40,169 --> 00:33:36,940
my question to Adrian dude I I've heard

786
00:33:43,379 --> 00:33:40,179
of other people having smells and tastes

787
00:33:45,359 --> 00:33:43,389
when something in paranormal is about to

788
00:33:48,629 --> 00:33:45,369
happen or is going to happen and that's

789
00:33:51,989 --> 00:33:48,639
my question to you did is that something

790
00:33:54,960 --> 00:33:51,999
that you have experienced or have some

791
00:33:56,489 --> 00:33:54,970
thoughts on it is yes psychics will tell

792
00:33:58,669 --> 00:33:56,499
you of course that there are times where

793
00:34:01,560 --> 00:33:58,679
they can taste blood or they can taste

794
00:34:03,960 --> 00:34:01,570
poisons perhaps or cigarettes or even

795
00:34:05,430 --> 00:34:03,970
grandma's cookies I'm trying to remember

796
00:34:08,220 --> 00:34:05,440
the name without the top of my head I

797
00:34:09,480 --> 00:34:08,230
think it's clear ambien but I'd have to

798
00:34:11,700 --> 00:34:09,490
I'd have to check that but that is a

799
00:34:13,649 --> 00:34:11,710
form of being psychic as well that you

800
00:34:15,720 --> 00:34:13,659
get the taste and flavors of things but

801
00:34:18,330 --> 00:34:15,730
what I was going to say was I done a lot

802
00:34:20,580 --> 00:34:18,340
of research I mention it in my last book

803
00:34:22,619 --> 00:34:20,590
mysterious Minnesota I talk about smells

804
00:34:24,950 --> 00:34:22,629
because there's been numbers of places

805
00:34:27,450 --> 00:34:24,960
I've investigated and Taylors Falls

806
00:34:30,060 --> 00:34:27,460
jailhouse springs to mind on the edge of

807
00:34:31,740 --> 00:34:30,070
the Wisconsin Minnesota border where I'm

808
00:34:34,109 --> 00:34:31,750
investigating in there and then you get

809
00:34:36,869 --> 00:34:34,119
the most terrible sulfur type smells

810
00:34:39,540 --> 00:34:36,879
just before you have kind of paranormal

811
00:34:41,520 --> 00:34:39,550
contact really and some people would

812
00:34:44,340 --> 00:34:41,530
associate those maybe with demonic

813
00:34:47,820 --> 00:34:44,350
entities or the darker side biblically

814
00:34:49,500 --> 00:34:47,830
of things but on these occasions their

815
00:34:52,409 --> 00:34:49,510
normal spirits if you like they're not

816
00:34:55,649 --> 00:34:52,419
non-human but that smell does come about

817
00:34:57,990 --> 00:34:55,659
and I did some research on this and it's

818
00:35:00,270 --> 00:34:58,000
mentioned in the Iliad going that far

819
00:35:03,270 --> 00:35:00,280
back about the concept of electricity

820
00:35:06,150 --> 00:35:03,280
and EMF if you like reacting with the

821
00:35:08,580 --> 00:35:06,160
air and people have actually documented

822
00:35:11,099 --> 00:35:08,590
after lightning strikes that they get a

823
00:35:13,140 --> 00:35:11,109
very strong smell of sulfur and Benjamin

824
00:35:15,450 --> 00:35:13,150
Franklin actually documented to the

825
00:35:18,930 --> 00:35:15,460
Royal Society the concept of having

826
00:35:21,330 --> 00:35:18,940
sulfur type smells after a big kind of

827
00:35:23,490 --> 00:35:21,340
exertion of electrical magnetic energy

828
00:35:25,680 --> 00:35:23,500
so I just wonder and of course you get

829
00:35:27,510 --> 00:35:25,690
the cliché of the fire and brimstone if

830
00:35:30,390 --> 00:35:27,520
you like when we talk about you know

831
00:35:31,980 --> 00:35:30,400
biblical events happening from god so

832
00:35:34,680 --> 00:35:31,990
there's many different cultures that

833
00:35:36,810 --> 00:35:34,690
associate the sulfur smells with with

834
00:35:39,720 --> 00:35:36,820
the perhaps lightning and a big

835
00:35:41,280 --> 00:35:39,730
discharge of electricity and in my

836
00:35:44,609 --> 00:35:41,290
experience there has been occasions

837
00:35:46,470 --> 00:35:44,619
where spirits have somehow reacted with

838
00:35:48,810 --> 00:35:46,480
the air as Benjamin Franklin quite

839
00:35:50,790 --> 00:35:48,820
rightly pointed out it requires a vast a

840
00:35:52,470 --> 00:35:50,800
man of electrical energy for that to

841
00:35:54,060 --> 00:35:52,480
take part but it is there and is

842
00:35:57,510 --> 00:35:54,070
documented if people want to look at

843
00:35:58,980 --> 00:35:57,520
that on the websites or on internet and

844
00:36:01,190 --> 00:35:58,990
I just wonder if there's an element that

845
00:36:03,780 --> 00:36:01,200
there's been occasions where I've seen

846
00:36:05,430 --> 00:36:03,790
psychic activity or I've experienced

847
00:36:08,250 --> 00:36:05,440
spirits and ghosts just moments before

848
00:36:09,960 --> 00:36:08,260
they arrive by getting that smell first

849
00:36:12,720 --> 00:36:09,970
and this is something's happening to the

850
00:36:14,460 --> 00:36:12,730
air and it's being charged or juiced up

851
00:36:16,680 --> 00:36:14,470
and of course part of the equipment we

852
00:36:19,230 --> 00:36:16,690
carry with us now now things like en

853
00:36:21,570 --> 00:36:19,240
pumps where we feel the air with

854
00:36:22,080 --> 00:36:21,580
electrical magnetic energy on purpose to

855
00:36:24,630 --> 00:36:22,090
try and get

856
00:36:26,880 --> 00:36:24,640
goes to manifest because maybe you know

857
00:36:28,710 --> 00:36:26,890
it's like a finger buffet and you can

858
00:36:31,440 --> 00:36:28,720
actually perhaps give them a better

859
00:36:33,450 --> 00:36:31,450
chance or a catalyst of appearing if you

860
00:36:35,550 --> 00:36:33,460
charge up the atmosphere and allow them

861
00:36:37,020 --> 00:36:35,560
to appear because ultimately you know

862
00:36:38,280 --> 00:36:37,030
we've discussed on other shows in the

863
00:36:39,810 --> 00:36:38,290
past that you know there is the

864
00:36:42,090 --> 00:36:39,820
possibility that you might actually be

865
00:36:44,910 --> 00:36:42,100
able to earth a ghost because if ghosts

866
00:36:47,970 --> 00:36:44,920
and spirits require energy to open doors

867
00:36:49,620 --> 00:36:47,980
and to create footsteps or two perhaps

868
00:36:51,690 --> 00:36:49,630
turn the faucet on and off on light

869
00:36:53,970 --> 00:36:51,700
switches it does require an energy and

870
00:36:55,800 --> 00:36:53,980
so they must be working with the type of

871
00:36:57,030 --> 00:36:55,810
energy for that to take place and of

872
00:36:59,460 --> 00:36:57,040
course it's working within the

873
00:37:02,010 --> 00:36:59,470
atmosphere so perhaps that smell that

874
00:37:04,320 --> 00:37:02,020
takes that you get was a sense of a big

875
00:37:06,720 --> 00:37:04,330
electrical discharge taking place as the

876
00:37:08,580 --> 00:37:06,730
spirit perhaps leaves the body very

877
00:37:11,130 --> 00:37:08,590
violently at that moment perhaps would

878
00:37:13,020 --> 00:37:11,140
be a suggestion that's that's that's a

879
00:37:16,230 --> 00:37:13,030
good question no Adrian I had a question

880
00:37:18,630 --> 00:37:16,240
going back to so-called like a spirit in

881
00:37:21,060 --> 00:37:18,640
limbo now does the environment have any

882
00:37:22,920 --> 00:37:21,070
influence on where the person passes

883
00:37:25,560 --> 00:37:22,930
like compared to a passing in your house

884
00:37:27,030 --> 00:37:25,570
as to like a battlefield for the Civil

885
00:37:29,640 --> 00:37:27,040
War is it is it going to be a longer

886
00:37:32,550 --> 00:37:29,650
process being outside of their

887
00:37:34,410 --> 00:37:32,560
environment before they pass I don't

888
00:37:36,060 --> 00:37:34,420
think so in many respects if you're

889
00:37:37,350 --> 00:37:36,070
going over the top in the First World

890
00:37:38,700 --> 00:37:37,360
War you perhaps have a great

891
00:37:40,680 --> 00:37:38,710
understanding that there's a very

892
00:37:42,630 --> 00:37:40,690
limited chance you're actually going to

893
00:37:44,430 --> 00:37:42,640
be coming back from that so you make

894
00:37:46,400 --> 00:37:44,440
must be better prepared because you

895
00:37:48,120 --> 00:37:46,410
you're staring it in the face almost

896
00:37:51,620 --> 00:37:48,130
I've had some very interesting

897
00:37:53,640 --> 00:37:51,630
experiences in battlefields actually

898
00:37:55,770 --> 00:37:53,650
there was one battlefield that I

899
00:37:57,450 --> 00:37:55,780
investigated in Britain that took place

900
00:37:59,520 --> 00:37:57,460
is the Battle of neighs be and it's in

901
00:38:02,190 --> 00:37:59,530
Northampton shear which is a couple of

902
00:38:04,350 --> 00:38:02,200
hours drive north of London but in the

903
00:38:07,320 --> 00:38:04,360
middle of the 17th century I think I

904
00:38:09,930 --> 00:38:07,330
want to say 1645 probably wouldn't be

905
00:38:12,930 --> 00:38:09,940
too far my memory serves me right but we

906
00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:12,940
had a battle a civil war which actually

907
00:38:18,810 --> 00:38:15,010
killed one in three of the population of

908
00:38:21,660 --> 00:38:18,820
Britain so this was a huge conflict that

909
00:38:24,060 --> 00:38:21,670
took place over 10 years between the

910
00:38:25,980 --> 00:38:24,070
Republican kind of government and the

911
00:38:27,780 --> 00:38:25,990
monarchy and the king and ultimately

912
00:38:30,030 --> 00:38:27,790
amend that King Charles the first had

913
00:38:31,680 --> 00:38:30,040
his head cut off and his son was put

914
00:38:33,750 --> 00:38:31,690
into exile and that's when we went from

915
00:38:35,020 --> 00:38:33,760
being a kind of monarchy where the king

916
00:38:37,930 --> 00:38:35,030
or the Queen has power

917
00:38:39,310 --> 00:38:37,940
to being a country that's ruled by

918
00:38:41,380 --> 00:38:39,320
government with just almost like a

919
00:38:44,560 --> 00:38:41,390
puppet monarch if you like just for

920
00:38:46,480 --> 00:38:44,570
tourism and to create industry within

921
00:38:49,330 --> 00:38:46,490
the British Isles but that was a very

922
00:38:52,660 --> 00:38:49,340
interesting battlefield 30,000 people

923
00:38:54,580 --> 00:38:52,670
died in a very small area and we got

924
00:38:56,110 --> 00:38:54,590
some really interesting information from

925
00:38:57,730 --> 00:38:56,120
there even though that battle dates back

926
00:38:59,440 --> 00:38:57,740
as i said to the middle of the

927
00:39:01,780 --> 00:38:59,450
seventeenth century there was a lot of

928
00:39:04,510 --> 00:39:01,790
activity there in terms of residual

929
00:39:06,490 --> 00:39:04,520
energy guns don't exist in Britain

930
00:39:08,500 --> 00:39:06,500
that's all hardly anywhere there they've

931
00:39:10,240 --> 00:39:08,510
been banned their illegal which means

932
00:39:12,430 --> 00:39:10,250
the police don't actually carry guns

933
00:39:13,840 --> 00:39:12,440
because the criminals tend not to have

934
00:39:16,320 --> 00:39:13,850
them either of course and they just sit

935
00:39:18,460 --> 00:39:16,330
there throwing sticks of one another

936
00:39:20,080 --> 00:39:18,470
great British is near then we'll have a

937
00:39:23,800 --> 00:39:20,090
cup of tea and chat about in the Holly

938
00:39:25,750 --> 00:39:23,810
oh that's great they they have we have

939
00:39:27,370 --> 00:39:25,760
SWAT teams if necessary if there's an

940
00:39:30,640 --> 00:39:27,380
armed robbery there there's a specially

941
00:39:33,190 --> 00:39:30,650
trained group of a but uh you you've had

942
00:39:35,830 --> 00:39:33,200
some pretty violent criminals in your

943
00:39:37,510 --> 00:39:35,840
midst Jack the Ripper comes to mind oh

944
00:39:39,250 --> 00:39:37,520
you didn't shoot anybody doubt to be

945
00:39:41,380 --> 00:39:39,260
fairly I don't I think I'd rather be

946
00:39:43,000 --> 00:39:41,390
shot and sliced and diced I mean like a

947
00:39:45,670 --> 00:39:43,010
tuna or something I mean it was pretty

948
00:39:47,080 --> 00:39:45,680
gruesome strange you should bring him up

949
00:39:48,730 --> 00:39:47,090
actually and we're getting off track a

950
00:39:50,770 --> 00:39:48,740
little bit but this is interesting i

951
00:39:53,860 --> 00:39:50,780
researched my family tree being a

952
00:39:56,530 --> 00:39:53,870
historian and i discovered that my full

953
00:39:58,420 --> 00:39:56,540
fifth and sixth generation of family you

954
00:40:01,120 --> 00:39:58,430
know my great-great-grandmother for

955
00:40:03,340 --> 00:40:01,130
example was actually born and raised in

956
00:40:05,290 --> 00:40:03,350
Whitechapel and actually it's traits

957
00:40:07,000 --> 00:40:05,300
that some of the murders took place in

958
00:40:09,640 --> 00:40:07,010
which I wasn't aware of like Boston

959
00:40:11,650 --> 00:40:09,650
Street example huh and what that's the

960
00:40:15,430 --> 00:40:11,660
me is that I in my family was very poor

961
00:40:16,990 --> 00:40:15,440
and living in destitution and secondly

962
00:40:18,370 --> 00:40:17,000
that how frightened they must have been

963
00:40:21,700 --> 00:40:18,380
that that was going on on their very

964
00:40:23,110 --> 00:40:21,710
doorstep and I have visited those areas

965
00:40:25,480 --> 00:40:23,120
and there's a lot of energy there I've

966
00:40:27,070 --> 00:40:25,490
actually stood in the places where where

967
00:40:28,480 --> 00:40:27,080
a lot of those victims were killed the

968
00:40:30,100 --> 00:40:28,490
ones that stay exists because some of

969
00:40:33,190 --> 00:40:30,110
them have been you know built over with

970
00:40:34,990 --> 00:40:33,200
carpet hey Adrian and that leads me to a

971
00:40:37,540 --> 00:40:35,000
question from one of our listeners it

972
00:40:40,930 --> 00:40:37,550
comes in from Jim Bob short and he's

973
00:40:43,480 --> 00:40:40,940
asking you does you do you think a

974
00:40:46,060 --> 00:40:43,490
cemetery is any more likely to be

975
00:40:48,910 --> 00:40:46,070
haunted and an exhibit spirit than a

976
00:40:51,280 --> 00:40:48,920
house I think it's less likely

977
00:40:54,430 --> 00:40:51,290
my experience I space likely okay he

978
00:40:56,860 --> 00:40:54,440
lightly in cemeteries I you never lived

979
00:40:59,290 --> 00:40:56,870
there be you very rarely frequented the

980
00:41:01,030 --> 00:40:59,300
place when you was live if at all you're

981
00:41:02,650 --> 00:41:01,040
laid to rest with all your family

982
00:41:04,780 --> 00:41:02,660
they're all your friends are given a

983
00:41:06,400 --> 00:41:04,790
good send-off why would you hang out

984
00:41:09,070 --> 00:41:06,410
there when we could be hanging out and

985
00:41:11,230 --> 00:41:09,080
hunters for example you know right yeah

986
00:41:13,030 --> 00:41:11,240
ultimately if you didn't live there if

987
00:41:14,530 --> 00:41:13,040
you've got no connection to the place if

988
00:41:16,060 --> 00:41:14,540
he was given a good send-off there

989
00:41:18,000 --> 00:41:16,070
really wouldn't be any reason to hang

990
00:41:20,110 --> 00:41:18,010
around and in my experience of

991
00:41:22,030 --> 00:41:20,120
investigating cemeteries all over the

992
00:41:25,030 --> 00:41:22,040
world they're very quiet and very

993
00:41:26,440 --> 00:41:25,040
peaceful on the whole the only time I've

994
00:41:28,900 --> 00:41:26,450
ever stumbled across anything in a

995
00:41:31,000 --> 00:41:28,910
cemetery as if someone feels hard done

996
00:41:33,510 --> 00:41:31,010
by it or they have a message to relay

997
00:41:36,550 --> 00:41:33,520
otherwise they're extremely peaceful and

998
00:41:38,440 --> 00:41:36,560
they don't tend to be too much hanging

999
00:41:40,720 --> 00:41:38,450
around there and out of out of a matter

1000
00:41:42,700 --> 00:41:40,730
of respect actually I don't tend to to

1001
00:41:44,380 --> 00:41:42,710
do many investigations in cemeteries

1002
00:41:45,670 --> 00:41:44,390
having said that of course I was

1003
00:41:48,550 --> 00:41:45,680
actually in the cemetery a couple of

1004
00:41:50,590 --> 00:41:48,560
weeks ago in a Jackson County to

1005
00:41:52,330 --> 00:41:50,600
research and this was a disused cemetery

1006
00:41:54,820 --> 00:41:52,340
no one's been buried there since

1007
00:41:57,190 --> 00:41:54,830
nineteen twenty-six and I believe in

1008
00:41:59,440 --> 00:41:57,200
Minnesota law you can actually call it a

1009
00:42:01,660 --> 00:41:59,450
pioneer cemetery if less than six people

1010
00:42:03,970 --> 00:42:01,670
have been buried there over the last 50

1011
00:42:06,700 --> 00:42:03,980
years so by law it's actually a disused

1012
00:42:09,190 --> 00:42:06,710
dis Snowden unfunctional if you like a

1013
00:42:11,410 --> 00:42:09,200
cemetery but I did spend some time there

1014
00:42:14,260 --> 00:42:11,420
a couple of weeks ago and I did get a

1015
00:42:16,540 --> 00:42:14,270
spirit come through psychically and on

1016
00:42:18,640 --> 00:42:16,550
the equipment that's a very rare event

1017
00:42:20,590 --> 00:42:18,650
to be honest it's not something that I

1018
00:42:23,440 --> 00:42:20,600
you know to answer the question it's

1019
00:42:25,410 --> 00:42:23,450
less less likely to get activity I would

1020
00:42:28,330 --> 00:42:25,420
believe than a house in my experience

1021
00:42:30,430 --> 00:42:28,340
hmm that's interesting that is

1022
00:42:34,720 --> 00:42:30,440
interesting yeah and you know it

1023
00:42:37,810 --> 00:42:34,730
listening to that it makes sense it did

1024
00:42:39,820 --> 00:42:37,820
that you know though why would you hang

1025
00:42:41,740 --> 00:42:39,830
around there I mean you've got a good

1026
00:42:45,610 --> 00:42:41,750
send-off as you say and it was it was

1027
00:42:49,540 --> 00:42:45,620
done in a you know in a way that your

1028
00:42:51,670 --> 00:42:49,550
ancestors prior to you so and if you

1029
00:42:53,170 --> 00:42:51,680
want to know ultimate want to look and

1030
00:42:55,150 --> 00:42:53,180
see how your grandchildren are getting

1031
00:42:57,010 --> 00:42:55,160
right you over see who's living in your

1032
00:42:59,200 --> 00:42:57,020
house and how your family's doing yeah

1033
00:43:01,000 --> 00:42:59,210
write it in spirit at a graveyard what

1034
00:43:02,890 --> 00:43:01,010
would you do you set your hands in your

1035
00:43:05,690 --> 00:43:02,900
pockets whistling wouldn't you

1036
00:43:10,700 --> 00:43:05,700
well I knows people are dying to get in

1037
00:43:13,160 --> 00:43:10,710
oh if I couldn't pass it up I'm sorry

1038
00:43:16,489 --> 00:43:13,170
anyone thought to you is the only person

1039
00:43:17,870 --> 00:43:16,499
who said it yeah exactly yeah it's funny

1040
00:43:20,150 --> 00:43:17,880
about all these ghost hunting groups

1041
00:43:21,829 --> 00:43:20,160
have an attraction to go to the cemetery

1042
00:43:24,200 --> 00:43:21,839
and think they're going to see spirits

1043
00:43:26,630 --> 00:43:24,210
though too I will Teddy thing very

1044
00:43:29,210 --> 00:43:26,640
briefly people say to me why the ghosts

1045
00:43:31,849 --> 00:43:29,220
always hang out in basements and I reply

1046
00:43:33,769 --> 00:43:31,859
every paranormal team I've ever been

1047
00:43:36,109 --> 00:43:33,779
involved in or I've come across are now

1048
00:43:37,999 --> 00:43:36,119
about the first place they go to is the

1049
00:43:40,069 --> 00:43:38,009
basement and they sit down there with

1050
00:43:42,049 --> 00:43:40,079
all their equipment and they cite if

1051
00:43:44,390 --> 00:43:42,059
anyone's in the building will you come

1052
00:43:46,519 --> 00:43:44,400
to us will you say hello well the spirit

1053
00:43:48,769 --> 00:43:46,529
turns up and says hello and it comes you

1054
00:43:51,140 --> 00:43:48,779
know to have a conversation and the

1055
00:43:52,910 --> 00:43:51,150
measurements get measured and things go

1056
00:43:54,620 --> 00:43:52,920
off and the temperature changes and this

1057
00:43:56,420 --> 00:43:54,630
that and the other they come out of the

1058
00:43:58,370 --> 00:43:56,430
basement and say the basement haunted

1059
00:44:00,019 --> 00:43:58,380
there's a spirit down there there's not

1060
00:44:04,309 --> 00:44:00,029
the spirit was hanging out on the third

1061
00:44:06,440 --> 00:44:04,319
floor did you come to me it then comes

1062
00:44:09,170 --> 00:44:06,450
to them and then they say it's hanging

1063
00:44:10,849 --> 00:44:09,180
out in the basement it's not because

1064
00:44:12,710 --> 00:44:10,859
people say why would the spirit hang out

1065
00:44:15,229 --> 00:44:12,720
in the basement it's dark it's misery

1066
00:44:16,789 --> 00:44:15,239
bullet why were they down there well

1067
00:44:18,499 --> 00:44:16,799
they're not you know in the basement

1068
00:44:21,319 --> 00:44:18,509
that's where you happen to go and you

1069
00:44:23,479 --> 00:44:21,329
ask them to come to you if it's a good

1070
00:44:26,120 --> 00:44:23,489
point the same with the cemetery I guess

1071
00:44:28,009 --> 00:44:26,130
isn't it great Yeah right we have

1072
00:44:30,170 --> 00:44:28,019
another question from chair to hear

1073
00:44:32,269 --> 00:44:30,180
Adrianna have you ever reported seeing a

1074
00:44:34,579 --> 00:44:32,279
spirit lake of a caveman or Neanderthal

1075
00:44:37,400 --> 00:44:34,589
like something more of an ancient type

1076
00:44:39,170 --> 00:44:37,410
of creature this is a subject we've

1077
00:44:42,049 --> 00:44:39,180
talked about on many occasion and I know

1078
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people have different views on this to

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listen to the rest of this interview

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please go to inception radio network com

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and register for the insider's club what

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is the insider's club the insider's club

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is our premium content what you just

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listened to now what you just listen to

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is a preview of that

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premium content the insider's club is

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how we pay the bills that's how you

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support higher and you joined forces

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with irn to get the truth out there now

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a lot of our content is free i mean most

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of our content industry all of our live

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shows are free if you go to our archives

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the vast majority of our archives are

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for free but to pay the bills to help

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make sure this network stays alive stays

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viable we offer those who really love

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shows an ability to support our network

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and become a part of Eire n actually

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join forces and helping us get the truth

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out there now how do you do this again

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you go to inception radio network com

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and you subscribe for the insider's club

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and you would you'll have access to all

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rest of the show a faster way of getting

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there go to the description below this

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video and click on the link and like I

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said you'll be joining forces with irn

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you'll have availability of all of our

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content and we really appreciate your

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support thank you hello everyone Lori

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and fenton here hosted the California

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MUFON radio show asking if you'd like

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special access to exclusive and amazing

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and all things unexplained if you're

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nodding yes then join I rn's insider

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get an all-access pass to premier

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UFO sky watches

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exclusive irn radio and TV productions

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and of course paying radio with MJ and

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Ken Storch so don't wait any longer

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visit inception radio network com and

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click on member login to join I rn's

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insider club and get your VIP access

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today to listen to the rest of this

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interview please go to inception radio

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network com and register for the

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insider's club what is the insider's

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club the insider's club is our premium

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content what you've just listened to now

1138
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what you just listen to is a preview of

1139
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that premium content the insider's club

1140
00:47:40,279 --> 00:47:36,990
is how we pay the bills that's how you

1141
00:47:43,579 --> 00:47:40,289
support ire and you joined forces with

1142
00:47:45,740 --> 00:47:43,589
irn to get the truth out there now a lot

1143
00:47:47,539 --> 00:47:45,750
of our content is free i mean most of

1144
00:47:51,620 --> 00:47:47,549
our content is free all of our lives

1145
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shows are free if you go to our archives

1146
00:47:56,269 --> 00:47:53,819
the vast majority of our archives are

1147
00:47:59,839 --> 00:47:56,279
for free but to pay the bills to help

1148
00:48:03,470 --> 00:47:59,849
make sure this network stays alive stays

1149
00:48:05,839 --> 00:48:03,480
viable we offer those who really love

1150
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our radio station or network and our

1151
00:48:12,920 --> 00:48:09,599
shows an ability to support our network

1152
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and become a part of Eire n actually

1153
00:48:17,059 --> 00:48:15,539
joined forces and helping us get the

1154
00:48:19,880 --> 00:48:17,069
truth out there now how do you do this

1155
00:48:23,240 --> 00:48:19,890
again you go to inception radio network

1156
00:48:25,339 --> 00:48:23,250
com and you subscribe for the insider's

1157
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club and you will you'll have access to

1158
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all of our archives including this show

1159
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the rest of the show a faster way of

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getting there go to the description

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below this video and click on the link

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and like I said you'll be joining forces

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with irn you'll have availability of all

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of our content and we really appreciate

1165
00:48:57,390 --> 00:48:54,960
hello everyone Lori and Fenton here

1166
00:49:00,720 --> 00:48:57,400
hosted the California MUFON radio show

1167
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asking if you'd like special access to

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exclusive and amazing information about

1169
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UFOs the paranormal and all things

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unexplained if you're nodding yes then

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join I rn's insider club as an insider

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club member you'll get an all-access

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pass to premier inception radio network

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content for only four dollars and

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ninety-nine cents a month this includes

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live UFO and paranormal conferences live

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streaming UFO sky watches exclusive irn

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radio and TV productions and of course

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paying radio with MJ and Ken starch so

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don't wait any longer visit inception

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the rest of this interview please go to

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inception radio network calm and

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register for the insider's club what is

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the insider's club the insider's club is

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our premium content what you've just

1189
00:50:08,579 --> 00:50:04,660
listened to now what you just listen to

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00:50:10,500 --> 00:50:08,589
is a preview of that premium content the

1191
00:50:13,620 --> 00:50:10,510
insider's club is how we pay the bills

1192
00:50:16,799 --> 00:50:13,630
that's how you support ire and you

1193
00:50:19,170 --> 00:50:16,809
joined forces with irn to get the truth

1194
00:50:21,059 --> 00:50:19,180
out there now a lot of our content is

1195
00:50:25,319 --> 00:50:21,069
free i mean most of our content industry

1196
00:50:27,480 --> 00:50:25,329
all of our lives shows are free if you

1197
00:50:30,059 --> 00:50:27,490
go to our archives the vast majority of

1198
00:50:32,970 --> 00:50:30,069
our archives are for free but to pay the

1199
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bills to help make sure this network

1200
00:50:39,420 --> 00:50:36,970
stays alive stays viable we offer those

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00:50:42,329 --> 00:50:39,430
who really love our radio station or

1202
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network and our shows an ability to

1203
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support our network and become a part of

1204
00:50:51,240 --> 00:50:49,539
our n actually joined forces and helping

1205
00:50:53,069 --> 00:50:51,250
us get the truth out there now how do

1206
00:50:55,740 --> 00:50:53,079
you do this again you go to inception

1207
00:50:57,870 --> 00:50:55,750
radio network com

1208
00:51:00,120 --> 00:50:57,880
and you subscribe for the insider's club

1209
00:51:03,030 --> 00:51:00,130
and you will you'll have access to all

1210
00:51:05,070 --> 00:51:03,040
of our archives including this show the

1211
00:51:07,140 --> 00:51:05,080
rest of the show a faster way of getting

1212
00:51:09,780 --> 00:51:07,150
there go to the description below this

1213
00:51:11,970 --> 00:51:09,790
video and click on the link and like I

1214
00:51:14,310 --> 00:51:11,980
said you'll be joining forces with irn

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00:51:16,950 --> 00:51:14,320
you'll have availability of all of our

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00:51:27,740 --> 00:51:16,960
content and we really appreciate your

1217
00:51:30,180 --> 00:51:27,750
support thank you hello everyone

1218
00:51:33,060 --> 00:51:30,190
Laurieann fenton here hosted the

1219
00:51:35,580 --> 00:51:33,070
California MUFON radio show asking if

1220
00:51:39,660 --> 00:51:35,590
you'd like special access to exclusive

1221
00:51:42,960 --> 00:51:39,670
and amazing information about UFOs the

1222
00:51:46,020 --> 00:51:42,970
paranormal and all things unexplained if

1223
00:51:49,320 --> 00:51:46,030
you're nodding yes then join our ends

1224
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insider club as an insider club member

1225
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you'll get an all-access pass to premier

1226
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inception radio network content for only

1227
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four dollars and ninety-nine cents a

1228
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month this includes live UFO and

1229
00:52:04,849 --> 00:52:02,650
paranormal conferences live streaming

1230
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UFO sky watches x

1231
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elusive I are in radio and TV

1232
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productions and of course paying radio

1233
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with MJ and Ken starch so don't wait any

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longer visit inception radio network com

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and click on member login to join our